Saturday, February 9, 2008

AGAINST THE WIND ~ Marta

My mother and I on the beach. I have come here with her, to the farthest point on Long Island in the fall after everyone has left the summertime beach and it has become something else – raw and rough. I am looking for nature without buildings and thought maybe if I drove all the way to the end of Long Island I would find it. And I have no way of getting there except with my mother in her car.

I live up in the mountains in a yoga ashram. I’ve been living here for years and lately I have been wanting to get out of it more and more – it started when the passion to write hit me hard again. I’d just come back from India, a bunch of months as the guru’s secretary – le-dee-dah, everything should be different now or something – and I’m finding that I want to be in a writing group.

It starts with Urvashi coming up to the talk to me in the evening. I’m behind the Registration counter, by myself, closing up for the night, putting out on the counter the push-button phone and the hand-calligraphied sign that Archana made – so pretty – welcoming the late-arriving guest and asking them to please pick up said phone and page Security who will come and give them a key to a late-night dorm because it will be too late for them to walk into a regular dorm where everyone will be asleep in anticipation of getting up at 3 to walk to the Temple in the dark and meditate, and in the morning the late-comers will have to return to Registration – to this long front desk with its row of computers – and be checked in properly and assigned to a proper dorm.

We know that some people come late on purpose to get the late-night dorm because you usually get to have it to yourself, but we haven’t figured out a way to close this loophole.

I have been thinking about writing again, feeling that yearning inside that I used to feel, that I felt very intensely at certain times – intense enough to really act on – to quit my job and then the brick wall would descend and the blackness that told me I would never be what I wanted to be, I was crazy to fall for that dream thing again, because I was damaged, remember?, not whole. How else to explain that other people wrote and kept writing while I started and stopped?

The thing about yoga was that it didn’t think writing or art was very special. There were other things more important and for a few years I willingly packed away writing with things like blue jeans and New York City streets and apartments and those long drags on a pipe, holding the smoke in as long as I could – all things that didn’t seem to be taking me anywhere – and threw them into cardboard boxes that fit under my twin bed, the only space for non-public things in a room I shared with two other women, each of us in our twin beds, each of us with a bureau – a few drawers and a few hangers in the shared closet.

But a few years later the writing thing was hitting big time – like wanting to listen to rock and roll again instead of the unbroken soundtrack of Sanskrit chanting – and wanting to be in New York City again, just walking on the sidewalks – just me in jeans and hiking boots, the way I used to walk.

Something must be wrong with it if it feels good. It’s too simple. If I really want to get something out of life and not take the easy route then I should take the hard route, the one where I stay up in the ashram and sign up for another seva assignment like washing mounds of potatoes in freezing cold water next to a girl who tells me – her hands plunged in the cold water – that she has some condition I’ve never heard of before where she mustn’t let her hands get cold. Neither of us thinks this is a reason to stop or ask for something else to do -- or planting small trees in the rain with twenty other people, trying to plant each one the way the head of the Garden Department demonstrated because if you do it wrong the plant won’t get enough water or too much, and when will the truck come with tea and cookies from the kitchen, and then finally stopping for lunch, going back to the dining room, wondering why I don’t feel like I’ve really done something even though seva is supposed to be such an important practice?

But I am going to New York City every Wednesday. I’ve been sent on a project there so I get to not go to my office every Wednesday. I get to leave at 7am after breakfast. leave in the 12-person van, unloaded onto the Upper West Side at 9 with the hours of the day spread out for me like a feast and I am starving.

Urvashi and I start talking about writing. She wants to write too. She knows of a group in one of the nearby towns – someone she works with told her about it – Urvashi has always been a bit of an outsider, different. She lives here like all of us, but she has a full-time job in the local college. She pays rent to the ashram to live here instead of being on full-time staff. She has her own room.

We do not warm to the Sunday afternoon group in the local town. Soon we make our own group.

It is in this time that I go out to the tip of Long Island with my mother. In a lot of ways my mother is a pretty good go-to-the-beach buddy. She is game.

We get to the last little town and to a little place where we rent a room. It’s raining but I am desperate to go out to the ocean. I have to go out. My mother comes too. We walk against the wind. The rain soaks us. But I don’t want to stop. I have come for this. I want to get as far as I can away from everything I have known and it’s like I can never get far enough.

I am wrapped in a red and green woolen shawl that an old Indian couple gave me as a gift. I take photographs and then we turn back. I don’t feel ready, but at the same time I know I can’t keep going – not in this furious rain and wind. I have to go back, to that snug room.

24 comments:

yves said...

Please excuse my approximate English.

I am French and was envying you when sitting myself among the sevites in the 90's when you were standing close to GURUMAYI making announcements at MB.

I have been more than pleased to read your intimate instants with my guru.

I asked myself why Madri ended up insulting the Syda Foundation.

I founded the answer:10 years of egoism and egotism not serving the guru but serving only herself and her ambition to becoming a writer.

Writers have the capacity to creating a world of illusion:maya.That's it:you have been serving maya instead of serving that humble woman waiting for years on the parking lot at AN to be among the choosen.

I cannot imagine you as being a Tartuffe.

The only way to erase this thought is to publicly excusing yourself and putting your talent again to serving the only person who helped you to become what you are today.

With love,

Yves

Anonymous said...

I think you may have some misconceptions about yoga. There's a concept called Bhukti/Mukti. Worldly pleasures are okay. If you live life in the world and pursue your passion for writing or art or whatever it is, does not mean you are any less yogic than someone who is a renunciant living in an ashram or cave. And yoga does consider art and writing special. Yoga is the spanda and honors the creative principle. So I'm not sure where your understanding comes from. I think it may be some deep-seated misconception - perhaps relating to self-denial in some way. Or unworthiness? Did someone actually tell you yoga had to be a certain way, or did you just interpret it as such?

yves said...

The point is not about my (or your) conception about yoga.

The core of my intervention is that Madri made use of the Ashram as such to serving her Self and her ambition to become a writer.

It was not selfless service.

She should at least thank GURUMAYI for that gift she had been given to make her wish come true instead of insulting the Syda Foundation.

Anonymous said...

Yves, what utter rubbish! You invest a guru figure with omnipotent power and even more infantile, you are envious when someone is closer to her than you. Speaking from experience here - with Muktananda, not Gurumayi - and guess what... they don't know everything (they certainly are powerful intuitively and psycichally) and a great deal of their "omnipotence" is simply projected onto them by needy seekers.

I met Muktananda in 1978 and spent many years making the yoga my entire life and then many more growing up.

Anonymous said...

Marta, your writing is so elegant and so vivid that I could keep on reading your words endlessly... Please please write a 500-page volume, very soon!
Much Love to you

PS - I don't understand why you allow posts like Yves', unless it's to let everyone know that rudeness is not yet eradicated from this earth...

PPS – Yves, je suis francophone moi aussi, et j'ai été impliqué pendant plusieurs années à des assez hauts niveaux dans le Siddha Yoga, à GSP et à SF - par exemple j'ai souvent dû négocier avec Georges. Je trouve incroyable que tu ne considères pas dans ton jugement du Siddha Yoga tout le mal que le Siddha Yoga et ses gurus ont fait pendant des décennies à des centaines de personnes, toutes parmi les plus proches dévots. Tous ces gens ont été abusés de multes façons, et de très grands nombres ont grandement souffert de ces abus pendant des années et des années par la suite. Yves, des gens se sont suicidés à cause de Gurumayi, en es-tu conscient? Est-ce qu'au moins tu lis tous les commentaires de centaines d'ex-dévots depuis 1995 sur l'internet? J'espère que tu ne rationnalises pas tous ces abus avec des explications à la con, à la sauce SY?
Comment peux-tu défendre des gurus qui ont ce genre d'impact destructeur de façon systématique sur leurs plus proches adorateurs et collaborateurs?
Je crois que tu devrais avoir le courage de confronter la réalité, et par après... tu pleureras à chaudes larmes quand tu seras conscient de tout le mal que le Siddha Yoga a fait à tous ces gens.
J'ai honte de dire que j'ai moi aussi vénéré cette Gurumayi pendant toutes ces années. Je suis très heureux d'être sorti de ce culte - c'est bien ce dont il s'agit - depuis plus de 10 ans maintenant.
Bon courage

Anonymous said...

oh yves...i do hope you find a therapist soon!

bon voyage,

a baby who crawled out of the crib

Stuart said...

yves said...
I founded the answer: 10 years of egoism and egotism not serving the guru but serving only herself and her ambition to becoming a writer.

At core, I see 3 questions with what yves is saying.

(1) The only way to really know if someone else is egotistical or ambitious etc, would be to read their mind. We can't read minds, so when we accuse someone of egotism, etc, we're just guessing. This is why it's much more beneficial to look into our own minds than to judge someone else's. No one knows what Marta's mind is/was like, except maybe Marta herself.

(2) Why judge other people at all? There may be some special situations (like jury duty, or a poker game) when judging is called for. But generally, it's more than enough to look into our own thoughts and actions.

(3) If it happens to be true what yves is saying -- that for 10 years Marta stayed in the ashram and was ambitious to be a writer... so what? What's wrong with being a writer? If someone writes simply and honestly, it can be helpful medicine to avoid getting lost in dream-like dogmas.

It was not selfless service.

When it comes to self, ego, selflessness, etc... we can only look into our own minds, and watch how this thought "I" appears and disappears. If we go beyond that and judge other people as being egotistical and not selfless... if we pump ourselves up by believing that we've done "selfless service"... what's the use of that?

Anonymous said...
(they certainly are powerful intuitively and psycichally) and a great deal of their "omnipotence" is simply projected onto them by needy seekers.

There's zero evidence that Mukt or Gurumayi have any special psychic powers. To some people who met them, Mukt and GM had charisma, like a rock star or successful politician. That's all.

The idea that these gurus possess psychic powers is just speculation, just belief. Evidence and logic don't support this belief. ALL of their so-called omnipotence is projected onto them by their followers.

Anonymous #2 said...
PS - I don't understand why you allow posts like Yves', unless it's to let everyone know that rudeness is not yet eradicated from this earth...

I wouldn't blame Marta for blocking yves' post... but I think it's especially great that she allowed yves' post through. Doing so is a demonstration that if you're really interested in truth, there's less of a need to censor or keep the discussion narrow. Let everyone think and say what they want, let everyone discuss (or argue) together. Why not?

In the ashram, there was a very narrow range of what types of views could be openly expressed. I prefer a style that's much more wide.

Stuart
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/

yves said...

@stuart

There is nothing wrong of being a writer.

But there is something unacceptable in insulting the Foundation.

Instead of accusing the Syda Foundation Malti should on the contrary thank GURUMAYI for the "nobel" sevas she had been given all these years.

Are they better places than Arts Dpt.,Darshan Magazine,Correspondence with devotees,Announcements with Swamis,Scriptural Research,even correctinfg G's messages,all places where she could adjust,refine,confront her growing writing ability with exquisite texts preparing her Self for being a writer ?

Malti did bot spend years in the kitchen scrubbing heavy pots like some persons did because GURUMAYI knew that that kind of seva would not have helped her achieving her ambition !

Anonymous said...

Yves,

I'm the one who wrote to you in french. You didn't say how you react to the points I made.

Tu n'as pas dit comment tu réagissais aux arguments très cinglants que j'ai avancés concernant le Siddha Yoga et ses gurus... Est-ce à dire que tu n'as rien à en penser? Depuis combien de temps es-tu impliqué avec le SY? Que penses-tu de toutes ces 'allégations' qui remontent au temps de Muktananda au fait que les gurus du SY ont abusé de diverses façons d'un grand nombre de leurs plus proches collaborateurs et adorateurs? As-tu au moins lu le texte 'O Guru, Guru, Guru' de Liz Harris du New Yorker? Il est disponible en français sur l'internet. Par ailleurs,je ne sais pas si tu lis bien l'anglais, mais je peux te dire qu'il est aussi très intéressant de lire tous les échanges entre 'ex-siddhas yogis' - il y en a pour des centaines d'heures de lecture de posts originaux, et toutes les archives depuis 1995 sont disponibles sur le site de 'www.leavingsiddhayoga.net'.

Ou bien tu donnes le bénéfice du doute aux centaines de détracteurs du SY et tu te contrains à lire ces archives, ou bien tu te caches la tête dans le sable, Yves.
(et en fait, seulement 1 ou 2 heures de lecture permet déjà de semer un doute très raisonnable quant à la plausible véracité et au bien-fondé de ces déclaratioms et de ces analyses - d'autant plus si l'on connait personnellement une ou plusieurs des personnes impliquées, ce qui est mon cas. Par ailleurs il y a aussi plusieurs textes disponibles en français sur le site.)

Stuart said...

yves said...
But there is something unacceptable in insulting the Foundation.

Hi, yves, many thanks for responding to my comments!

With what you say here... it'd be clearer if you'd share what it is that Marta said that you think is insulting to the Foundation. Marta has written many chapters, and I have no idea what she's said that you're objecting to. And also WHY do you think that particular statement is unacceptible.

GURUMAYI knew that that kind of seva would not have helped her achieving her ambition !

Aren't you just guessing here? We can't read Gurumayi's mind, so we can only guess about what she did or didn't know. We can only guess about what Gurumayi's motives were (whether e.g. she wanted to help Marta achieve her ambition, or whether she wanted to exploit Martha, or whatever).

It's very interesting to me to hear people share what they experienced. It's far less interesting when people just make guesses. We each have our own rich experiences and perspectives. Why not believe in and share our own thoughts and feelings, rather than making guesses about the guru or anyone else?

If you're going to speculate about what Gurumayi knew and what her motives were... at least please explain why you've chosen to embrace those beliefs.

Stuart
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/

Cynthia Niles Rumford III said...

I got a good laugh out of Yves mind controlled posts. let him post away.

It's too be expected from cult victims anyhow.

it's the long winded pedantic papas who are preaching that make me yawn and skip over their stupid posts.

the joke is on Yves. He'll be the last to know.


loved the imagery in this piece.
related to the concept of escape from ashram prison/concentration camp, commandant/guru &
seeking sanctuary from the storms of life.

run, Marta, run

yves said...

@stuart

My belief is that on this earth everybody is at the right place at the right time.

With no exception for Madri being given the opportunity to grow with the help of a loving teacher,as everyone can read in her memoirs.

I have seen people crying because they had to leave the ashram.The doors were wide open for everybody to leave whenever they wanted to enjoying the "real world" !

My "stupid and pedantic posts",as Cyntia stated,are apparently creating violence.

I don't know how to protect myself against it,so I will stop posting.

Nevertheless I would be more than pleased to reading mistreatments or bad experiences of well known former devotees (not anonym people)

Anonymous said...

Yves!

As-tu un esprit pour discerner, oui ou non? Si oui, lis attentivement toutes les expériences et les analyses sur le site www.leavingsiddhayoga.net, et alors seulement tu pourras juger, pas avant! Mais après, tu seras entièrement libre de te faire ta propre idée! Tant que tu n'as fait cela, tant que tu ne t'es pas astreint à lire tout ce que les gens en ont vécu, tu ne peux pas savoir, et tu ne peux pas juger.

Et oui, il y a plusieurs ex-dévots dont les textes ne sont pas anonymes (y compris Stuart Resnick sur le présent blogue).
Bonne chance

Cynthia Niles Rumford III said...

creating violence? oh non!

Your reaction to Marta's writing is bizarre. You come off as offended and wounded.

I find you so off track, off kilter all I can do is guffaw hysterically. here let me laugh again, ha-ha ha-ha, ha-ha

This beautiful work of hers is the exact opposite of violent.

oh well, every rose garden needs a little manure.
thank you for adding yours to the pile, Yves.

Stuart said...

yves wrote...
My belief is that on this earth everybody is at the right place at the right time.

Thanks again, yves. Your belief is very nice. But beliefs are like medicine: we use them to help remove specific illnesses. There's no belief/medicine that's good for you all the time!

With no exception for Madri being given the opportunity to grow with the help of a loving teacher,as everyone can read in her memoirs.

If we want to enter a realm of fantasy and speculation, we could wonder about whether or not Gurumayi is really "loving" as you claim. But what's the point? I can see how wonderful it is to try to act with love myself... but I fail to see the point of judging Gurumayi's "lovingness" one way or the other.

I have seen people crying because they had to leave the ashram.The doors were wide open for everybody to leave whenever they wanted to enjoying the "real world" !

I believe that what you write here is very much in harmony with Marta's memoir. Nowhere did she make any claim that the doors weren't wide open.

My "stupid and pedantic posts",as Cyntia stated,are apparently creating violence.

I think you're 100% mistaken here. The wonderful thing about these blogs is that we communicate with words, so no violence is possible.

Stuart
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

are Yves and Stuart the same person?

MartaSzabo said...

no

Anonymous said...

Lovely writing, Marta, direct and evocative. Thanks.

older but wiser

Anonymous said...

I am doing a paper on Siddha Yoga which I had viewed as a true path to God. I have been surprised by some of the information coming from those who no longer follow this spiritual path. Can anyone give me some input that will enlighten me about such different views of the guru? Thank you. I'm not publishing anything. This is for a class on culture.

Anonymous said...

The great thing about Siddha Yoga is the freedom you have in it. You can practise it for years and then leave and write about how it did nothing for you. Myself I have been transformed in a very positive manner. I love life and live fully without the negative emotions I used to suffer from. I dont care about all the accusations towards it. I only care about what it has done for me.

Anonymous said...

I'm the "anonymous" who is in a class about culture. It seems that people who were close to Swami Chidvilasananda or to Swami Muktananda looked to them in such an adoring way that all they could do was disappoint, no matter what. But it seems that the culture of Siddha Yoga is about what is inside of a person, not who is outside talking about what is inside. I guess I mean it comes from you, not from someone else. And, at the same time, a person like a guru or swami can help but isn't the ultimate definer of God. It's you. You, the seeker.

Anonymous said...

Gurumayai will tell Siddha yoga is a two winged bird. Half is your effort and half is grace. If you decide to be bitter and jaded you will bear the fruit of that attitude. I was never one to look at GM as my salvation. I view her as someone who has helped guide me within. She is legit. so is Siddha yoga.

Anonymous said...

I am eamazed by your confidence in your faith. I grew up Catholic and just lost all faith in God in my teens. I am many years down the roadfrom my teens and I still struggle. I am very bitter about the Catholic church and the loss of my faith...what I thought was faith. And in some ways my heart has been closed ever since. How do you open your heart?

Anonymous said...

I have confidence in "my faith" because its not based on a theory. I have validated my experience with my feelings and outlook on life. Sure I have had spiritual experiences but those by itself dont interest me as much as my transformation over the last 10 years. My practises have resulted in developing a solid foundation within myself. And yes a constant feeling of happiness and contentment not based on anything in this world. Its a beautiful practise Siddha Yoga.